we'll continue that in the next sit down, if you will, but it seems to me it's important that if governor romney is in an interesting position, at least in economics, finds himself in the unique position having the same disadvantages of senator mccain, and governor romney is still running against george w. bush with economic policies. >> yes, but that was -- that's been true in the past, and many presidential changes -- for example, think about president reagan, he was running against the catastrophic effects of nixon's wage on price controls lasting up to 1980 and carter. the "new york times," i have to remind you, the "new york times" on the eve of the election between reagan and carter had it too close to call. lou: the third debate? >> that is right. lou: i know it's right. up next, governor romney trailing in the polls, but does history show come from behind wins are possible? as we disused, there -- discussed, there is history here. we'll have the report. are taxpayer dollars -- they call it art, but looks like obscenity to me, but there we are. we'll look at the ways in which the o